Maku: This is Maku, Chief Black Thunderbird Eagle Chief of the
Yamassee Native American Moors of the Creek Nation Registry #
208 front slash 1999. I am presently incarcerated in Jones
County, it is March the second Two Thousand and Four and I'm
making this tape to clear up some of the discrepancies in out
tribe. The Yamassee Native Americans Moors Of The Creek Nation.
Interviewer: Ok Now do i have permission to tape this interview?
Maku: Yes you have permission to tape my interview and to make
it public known what I'm saying
Interviewer: Ok, There are some c.d.s circulating and other
interviews and other conversations that you've done,
what is your position on that?
Maku: What happens is when we was doing these interviews and
talking to people from the "Atlanta Gossip" and I gave them
permission at first and then the lawyer told us to stop, don't
put that out; cause it could be used against us. And so I told
them, I spoke directly to Terra Boddie, and I spoke to her
father and I told them don't put these tapes out and she promise
me over the telephone that she would not release the tapes. And
about a couple of days later I started receiving letters from
different people from Tennessee and different States. Where they
said they heard the tapes and that they like the tape and when
did I make the tape? And I called in and she told me again she
hadn't put the tape out. Then I heard from another person
through a letter that some of the tape was up on the internet
and they put it up there with Hip Hop music behind it. So I
called her again and she promise me again, and I said it's not
about a money thing. Right, because this person is going to put
it out, I figured it was going to help her paper cause she was
trying to get the "Atlanta Gossip" started. And you know, we
been fighting a long time. So I figured I could trust her and I
said well you know, you can put this out and this well help you
get your paper printed and everything. I told her to go to the
office, get in touch with the people cause the paper she was
sending to me needed lay out and office was more professional
about it and I told them not to do it but they did it anyway and
I'm very disappointed about that.
Interviewer: Ok! There has also been some recent arrest and
incarceration of people that are claiming to be Yamassee Native
American Of The Creek Nation. Are they members of your tribe?
Maku: Well, we think that's quite convient that all this time we
been down here since 1993, we don't have all these things, but
in the middle of this case, in the middle of the sentencing, in
the middle of the trial. People start doing a bunch of crazy
things out of no where. And calling themselves Yamassee native
American Moors Of The Creek Nation, I'm not saying these people
haven't been on the land, I'm not saying these people haven't
joined one of the many different branches of our organization.
But by tribe, I know for a fact. There was a dog mentioned, a
pit-bull was shot and marijuana was involved. The Nuwaubians,
Nuwaubians of "The Yamassee Native American Moors Of The Creek
Nation", we don't drink alcohol, we do not smoke cigarettes or
smoke marijuana. Nor do we do any kind of drugs, nor do we have
what we called jinn's or dogs around our house because of our
old culture called "Ansarullah:. Where we never had dogs around
out house. You follow? I know for one the girl that was
mentioned on television who we know is from the Navajo tribe.
The two fellows, i don't know who they are but I was told they
belong to the Washitaw tribe no# 215 I think they call
themselves; Mt. Arafat, and their under a chief Latif, and
they're also called Nuwaubians, but I am not over them, and i am
not they're chief. There are many Nuwaubian, I'm not the Chief
of all Nuwaubian, there are many Nuwaubian all over the place.
Some Muslim, Some Christian, Some Yoruba and some Atheist; for
that matter and I'm not the leader of all Nuwaubian, nor I'm I
the leader of the whole organization of Nuwaubians Worldwide.
Interview: Ok! Now what is the purpose of you putting this tape
Maku: Right now rectify, there's a lot of Gossip and slander
going on, about parties taken place during the trial, stuff that
devils is doing to cause problems in our tribe, they're doing it
now cause we have the devil by his tail and some of his helpers
be the black devils or white devils would like to release him.
and he's getting into the heart of people and they're letting
the demon mammoth called money in the Bible rule over they're
emotion and they're now mad at our Office, slandering the
Office. All kind of things just cause they were making a couple
of pennies of me and they only pretended they were concerned
with my release, but in actuality they saw an opportunity to
make some quick money and that's a sad thing. Cause that makes
them just as bad as the people that went up and lied on me and
put together this plot.
Interviewer: Hmm! Well I Appreciate your call and this interview
that they are about to hear is predated and actually took place
before the trail.
Maku: That's just it, and we're going to do a tape after that,
whenever you'll are ready.
This Interview that your about to read has
been written down from Isles Of Patmos cd Part 1 Between a
Female interviewer and our Chief, Chief Black Thunderbird Eagle,
Dr. Malachi Z. York El. And It has been written down, verbatim
and typed with the Best of my Ability.
Chief Maku: Yes, Hello.
Interviewer: Yes is this Mr. Malachi Z. York
Chief Maku: This Is Maku, Chief black Thunderbird Eagle Chief of
The Yamassee Native American Moors Of The Creek Nation BIA
Registry # 208/1999. That's when we were Registered with the
Bureau of Indian affairs. Our Constitution of Declaration, as
indigenous Status has Already been in existence since 1992, yes!
But they refer to me sometimes as Malachi and to even insult me;
Interviewer: So are, so are you saying you were never, um! your
arrest, the name you were arrested under, um! Dwight York was
not your name?
Chief Maku: That's Not my name and the Birth Certificate that
was issued to me, the Roxbury Massachusetts, as a Massachusetts
Indian; by the way was issued under the Name York. There was no
first name on it at all and that back Birth Certificate, is
available in several books that I've written, copies of it with
its number so it can be verified.
Interviewer: And has your genealogy been verified by Certified
Chief Maku: That's correct, we had someone from the Cherokee
tribe who's a Genealogist, I can't read her name off cause like
I said I been deprived and denied a right to get to those
things. I was only allowed Telephone Communication within the
last couple of Months. But Yes I had a Mrs. Robbie Hibner have
that investigated for me and they did a Genealogist chart that
check back from me, my Mother and My father, My grandfather,
which is William York and Carrie and all the way back to
Margaret and then it went straight back to Ben York and the
Louis and Clark Expedition. Showing that that's the Moorish side
of our family, but Ben York also Married Anna Maria, of the
Washi, a Washi woman. That made us Washitaw, and under that
number we're number 215, 1992 or 1993 if I'm not mistaken that
is our registry BIA number there.
Interviewer: Ok you mentioned just a few minutes earlier about
Chief Maku: Yes
Interviewer: When you were first arrested you went to the
Atlanta Penitentiary is that correct?
Chief Maku: That is Correct.
Interviewer: And is that were the torture began?
Chief Maku: It began before that, it began at the arrest, and i
have witnesses to it. It began in the Baldwin County Mall,
Shopping Mall in open day light. It began with them knocking out
the windows of my car with the butts of their guns. Dragging
three females along with myself on the floor in the streets, you
Chief Maku Continues: As they attempted to arrest us. Nothing in
that warrant to my knowledge ever referred to me as a dangerous
person, ever referred to me as a armed person or armed and
extremely dangerous person. Which would of cause for such and
over use of force in the present of a Sheriff, Sheriff Massey of
Baldwin County, who stood there and watch all of this abuse.
That's where the tortured started.
Interviewer: Ok and how many arresting officers were there at
that the time?
Chief Maku: I couldn't see, cause I was hit so fast, I was hit
so fast; and hit to the ground so fast and they were keeping the
guns poke in me from every direction and I wasn't allowed to
look up. Don't look up, don't look up. But I did notice as I
being dragged out the car, I looked to my right, I did see
Sheriff Massey from Baldwin County standing there.
Interviewer: Now you are, I've read in many articles that you
suffer from a condition called Hereditary Angio edema?
Chief Maku: That's correct.
Interviewer: Now were you given your medicine at any time?
Chief Maku: No! And they were informed from the time of my
arrest about my medication and that I have a chronicle disease
that thirty percent of the people that have it die. Right! And
it's activated from aggravation, frustration and tension. Which
it couldn't be more expressed, by the way we were being
harassed, you know; attacked in the streets there in Baldwin.
So when I got up there to Atlanta, which is the worse prison
system in the nation as been admitted by the Newspapers. Right!
And we told them we needed my Medication, I need this and they
wouldn't give it to me.
I told them i need medication, I told them what I had and they
wouldn't give it to me. Doctors up there had no idea what Angio
edema was, they was running around; A Filipino doctor, a
Ethiopian doctor, a Latino Doctor and they didn't know what to
do. And thy wouldn't do nothing about it, So I got locked in a
cell, me and three other men, one of them was Bryan Pitts, and i
learn that he saved my life. I was sleeping on the floor, one
guy was sleeping on the bunk, one sleeping on another bunk, and
one guy; was sleeping under the bunk. In a two man cell up
there, rats, roaches, filth. You know what I mean? I mean it's a
mess, the dietary law, the clothes; they don't give you fresh
clothes, their not allowed.
The telephone is only five minutes before they cut you off and
you only get that twice a week and you really don't get no
access to a library to fight your case. Lawyers are ignoring
people and not responding. Garland and them never showed up, up
there, except once to visit, cause they wanted to talk about
money. You follow that? They never wanted to go over the case,
they sent one kid up there named Charles who would come up there
and talked about history and nothing about the case.
Interview: And that's from the Garland Firm?
Chief Maku: The Garland and Lobe Firm.
Interviewer: Now I want to go back, just briefly and talk about
the medical condition. Do you have your own private Physician
and was he allowed to see you at that time?
Chief Maku: Yes I have a Private Physician, who been my
physician for over ten years, Dr. William Thompson. And no! He
wasn't given the right to see me, he was blocked and he called
and called everyday on the hour and we have a report of it.
However, a strange thing happened, when i got transferred over
there to Jones County, recently. Right! Interviewer: Yes. After
two years of this humiliation, there's another inmate here name
Gary C. Tatum, Interviewer: Right! Who's also classified as a
Yamassee Native American Moor, of our tribe and a Nuwaubian by
the way. Right! Dr. Thompson, same doctor, my doctor came out
here and they called Mr. Tatum out. They didn't say a doctor was
here to see him they just told him to go there to the Front
desk, when he got out there he saw Dr. William Thompson for the
first time. And then it was the point of making he had access to
my personal doctor for over two years. Interviewer: Right
The officer that was involved in that was a officer called Mr.
Wood and a officer called Mr. Lovett and one called Kent, here.
And had a obsession with making me uncomfortable Right.
Chief Maku: So they came to me Mr. Wood and Mr. Lovett came to
my cell and ask me do I want to go out and see a doctor? Well I
couldn't say yes, cause I recently filed a suit against the
doctor of this particular institution and I wasn't going to go
out there and put myself on their hands knowing I had just sued
them. You follow?
Chief Maku: So now I was caught in a rock and a hard place, but
he never told me my doctor was out there waiting to see me. He
ask me do you want to go see a doctor or go to a hospital? And I
said no. And they said could you please sign that down, and I
said yes, at this point no. So I sign that down and I put under
duress under it, to let them know, I know I'm being set up. Only
later to find out from a letter from my doctor that he had ask
the officer Wood out there, does Mr. York, know it's me out
here? And officer Woods lied and told him yes. Mr. York, know
it's you, he doesn't want to see you. We have that on record, we
documented it and Mr. Tatum, also signed his document to verify
he does it, he was allowed to see him physically in one day.
That's the kind of torture I been going through.
Interviewer: Now it has just been passed on to me, there's been
letters that were sent from the Department of Justice; and the
Bureau of Prisons in regards to your Medical Condition. Maku:
Interviewer: And it states that it's Acute Hereditary Angio
Edema? Maku: That's correct. Interviewer continues: Now when you
went in it was Just Hereditary Angio Edema?
Maku: Right! Well the condition, the way I been treated, I been
hoodwinked, I been shoved, I been pushed, I been handcuffed, I
been shackled, shackled to a bed in New York, with a black bag
over my head. By one Caucasian officer, who doesn't let the
other officers know what he's doing to the inmates up there on
10 south, he walks around with a grind. When all the other
officers walk out he changes into this demon and does all this
demonic stuff, to people. Right? Yes.
Interviewer: Ok! Now basically your the only other person that
witness, umm; i guess along with Brian Pitts and some of the
other inmates that have been there in the facility there with
you. What is the reason why your going through such torturous
treatment and things of that nature?
Chief Maku: Well! First of all, they know who i am. They know
I'm the chief of the Native American Tribe, They know that the
whole State of Georgia, belongs to my tribe and has since 1715,
"The Yamassee War". They never excepted us to stand up again and
claim our indigenous status. When I stood up and claimed my
Indigenous status, the first chance I could really do it was in
a small part of Putnam County, by using the word "Secure Party."
By Using the word Secure Party, just to keep the court off
balance, until I got to Federal Court. Who on June 30, I made it
very clear who I am, I made a declaration Status, Me and My
Tribe, Our Number 208. And they knew that if the jurisdiction
goes through they had no authority over a large group of people
they were calling the Nuwaubian Religious cult, which is really
a Native American Tribe and the only Nuwaubian part of it was
the Masonic Lodge. And they were bending the word, twisting the
things to the Public, through the Media. Because certainly those
media outlets are working directly with them to deceived the
public, into the point; the impression they're trying to give,
as oppose to the truth.
Interviewer: Now that was the June 30, Court Date is that right?
Chief Maku: That's Correct.
Interviewer: And after that, after you made that declaration,
and that is when your Defense or the Defense Attorney's, that
you very eloquently stated that you never hired. Chief Maku:
Interviewer continues: Stood up and then wanted to do a
competency hearing, could you explain that?
Chief Maku: I don't know why, because I had already been
evaluated by Garland own personal Clan of Psychiatrists, under a
Dr. Eldridge, which is very important I mentioned that. You know
why? Because recently in the paper Mr. Rob Peacher, I think the
day before yesterday, Right! mentions in there that a
psychiatrist told him that I didn't want to work with the
Garland Firm; that I didn't trust them and i knew they were
working with Sills. Meanwhile, the judge the other day in court
Judge Ashley Royal, made a Statement that he thinks the letters
that I put in, to start the proceedings; For filing against this
firm, "The Garland and Lobe firm" for ineffective counsel, he
said he thinks it's a ploy that I just started that day.
And then the following day, make it clear, that Rob Peachey,
comes out with a article stating that he heard it from a
Psychiatrist and the Psychiatrist he's talking about was Dr.
Eldridge. And she gave me a so called evaluation while I was
incarcerated in Polk Baldwin County. That's before I even got to
New York, to be evaluated by the New York Police Psychiatrist
Department. So she already heard me say I didn't trust him
before the so called, what you call it?
Maku: Plea agreement before, I already said I don't trust them
and I don't want to work with them and they just kept hiding it.
They actually shackle me and made me come out to the phone. They
would actually come in there and drag me to the phone to talk to
Garland, while he reiterate: "You must take a plea." "it's
better for you to take a plea." "Ain't no sense in you suffering
like this." Your facing a thousand years." "I'll never be able
to win this case." "I had cases like this before." "Why you
letting these other girls suffer?" "Why you letting all these
people suffer?" "Don't think about yourself, if you was my son,
then I would do this for you, I would tell you to do this."
He was working all the time with them and I knew it, cause I
knew they didn't have no case, I knew there wasn't no such thing
as no video's, I knew the witnesses that they were talking
about, I knew this was all big plot. And he didn't want to to
fight this case, because he made a deal with them. Took a
million point five; as I'm told by my sister, in cash money from
our tribe. And flaunted it and didn't even use it and never
intended on having the trial, but intended to put there a bogus
plea. But they knew I wasn't going to take a plea, so they had
to torture me into taking a plea.
Interviewer: Now in that torture, you were um, what was the
experience, that you learned of the other co-defendants?
Chief Maku: I was told that they were being treated the same way
I'm treated. And that means that I was sleeping on a concrete
floor; with real pork, bad food. Wasn't getting my medication,
watching rats, roaches, bugs, and stuff. In the midst of very
dangerous criminals, fights breaking up, people getting stabbed,
suicides, I watched four or five people commit suicide. I was
caught up in the middle of a riot in Atlanta, and some guy was
suppose to have hung himself. There was a riot between the
Florida Boys and the Georgia Boys, all this going. And the Black
Muslims, you know what I mean? Interviewer: Right. Chief Maku
continues: I said these kids are subject to that.
I knew that Sheriff Howard Richard Sills, right! Got names for
these two ladies, which is Chandra Lampkin and Khadijah Meritt,
out of a A.E.O. Magazine that we put out; that's the only place.
The only people in this court, involved three people that's in a
magazine; that's where he got the names from. He got Johnson
name; because Kathy Johnson, is standing behind me, while we're
advertising Egiptian Attire for our Lodge.
And those people being in there, are described as looking
exactly; a Replica of Ancient Egiptian Dieties. Right! So that's
where he got the Chandra Lampkins, Khadijah Meritt and Kathy
Johnson, to put this in. He had figured they'll torture them,
and if i think they're Tortured, i know that Kathy, Suffers from
M.S. which is a very, very Dangerous Disease. I said if they're
not giving me my Medicine, her's is brain deteriorating; she'll
be cripple for life. They use that, not to mention starvation,
sleep deprivation, where they kept waking me up. And I'm not
allowed telephone calls, interfering with my mail, you know;
basically a poor diet. You know a whole bunch of things, and
just out right vulgar and physical abuse.
Interviewer: Now prior, prior to the so called agreement that
was given to you, what was told you that; about the other
co-defendants, during this whole torture experience?
Chief Maku: They told me those people would go home free,
totally free, they'll do nothing; it would be all over. And you
would be the one that would bare the burden, cause after all
your the trophy that Putnam County wants, the State of Georgia,
wants you; that's it. The Land, they would leave those people
and they're land alone; and everything would go away that's the
promises that they were lying. They kept me up for three days,
Garland Firm; they kept sending they're own psychiatrist and
they kept me up all the way up to the day before. I didn't have
but, I think, I don't know how many hours exactly......Operator
interrupts. Maku Continues: I think I had about three hours to
make the decision on the plea. It wasn't like I had time to go
back and forth, they kept me up all night, until the next
morning. "We got to get the plea now." And my Step daughter
Richelle York, Was there to verify that.
Interviewer: Now! Um! Mr. York, ahhh! Or Chief Black Thunderbird
Eagle, as I should say to show you Honor and respect, It just
said that there's was one more minute for your call. But I do
have more questions and would like for you to call back, if
that's at all possible?
Chief Maku: I'll call Back........
Interviewer: Ok! I'm going to hang up now.
Chief Maku calls interviewer back, interview continues from
previous question about Plea Agreement.
Chief Maku: Rahubaat!
interviewer: Rahubaat! Maku, Chief Black Thunderbird Eagle, we
left off at discussing the plea agreement?
Chief Maku: Yes!
Interviewer: Now within these plea agreements that you were
tortured into taking. Maku: Right. Interviewer, continues: Was
the 476 acres of land, and I think I also heard of an exuberant
amount of money that was taken during the raid. Was those all
mentioned in the plea agreement?
Chief Maku: I never got a chance to read the Plea agreement.
That was the whole thing they kept me under the pressure and
scrutiny of they're psychiatrist over the whole night. Then took
me back to a cell around four or five and then call me back out,
before I could get to sleep. And then started with the plea
agreement. I never read the papers, I never knew nothing about:
like that P.S.R. or P.S.I. Or whatever you want to call it. I
didn't know anything about none of that stuff, they already had
all of this planned.
I know that when they did jump down on those people's land, and
the land was verified as theirs and not mines; by a Judge in
Putnam County, I think Hugh Winfield, right! They did take an
exuberant amount of money from them. I know when they went into
my house in 55 Mansfield in Athens County, Clark; I mean Athens
Georgia, Clark County, Where I lived, where I'm registered. They
took money out of my private, private money out of my house
which is illegal, you follow? They didn't find no weapons, they
didn't find nothing that would implement me, if they did find
anything in my house; it was put in there by Abigail Washington,
who was taking care the house. You Follow?
Interviewer responds: Yes.
Interviewer: So you are registered to vote, and your legal
resident is Athens, Clark county?
Maku: Clark county, I registered to vote, I voted in Clark
county, I registered when I purchased that house at 155
Mansfield, They asked me my Nationality? I made it clear then, I
was a Native American, one something i came up with over night.
Interviewer: Right! And going on, just moving forward within
this time period, that was January 24, 2002 that these umm; that
you were tortured to taking these plea agreements. Now you were
imprisoned all the way up and currently still incarcerated all
the way up until May 29th which was the sentencing date?
Chief Maku: Yes.
Interviewer: Now at that point and time was you given any
indication or anything going on with your case from any of your
Attorney's between January 24?
Chief Maku: I wasn't getting no communication from the Garland
Firm. Every now and again they would send a little guy in called
Charles, you know what I'm saying? And he would discuss, he
would actually discuss the Bible and History with me. Nothing to
do with documents, he wouldn't even go into anything with the
case. Garland, made it clear that he didn't think he could beat
this case, and I was like; it's time to get rid of him. After he
had taken 1.5 Million dollars from our Tribe, he was ready to
sign over an agreement. Which his Firm is known for, selling
Agreements and selling people out.
I told him from day one that I didn't trust him, and the Judge
tried to claim the other day that it was some new idea and it
was proven. But that was proven false the following day by Mr.
Rob Peachey, in his own article. Where he states very clearly
that Malachi, Told the psychiatrist way back that he did not
trust Garland, he said he was working with Sills. So if that's
true, then the letter that i issued to the judge, the other
morning; down stairs in a private meeting. Cause he didn't want
to hear it in the public, cause he's afraid of the Public
implication; that he made his own personal assumption. "This is
something I feel you did, there's a ploy your doing." You
follow! How is that possible if I've already told a legally
recognized, Georgia State psychiatrist; that I didn't trust the
man? And it's on they're Records.
Interviewer: So! Ok, at that. On May 28, that is when I was
reading in the article that a meeting had taken place. Between
the Judge, the Garland firm and the prosecution; now was you
present at that meeting?
Chief Maku: I was not, but I found out later that I was suppose
to have been, but I was not present they went on; and moved with
ah, a plea agreement. A whole bunch of different things, that I
didn't know nothing about. All I know is they were telling me,
your going to plead guilty; so you can get these people out. And
your going to get to your Medication, you'll be put in a nice
facility; as a old man. Where you can, you know, you'll be able
to write your books; and do the things you do. But those people,
those young woman and Kathy Johnson, will be free; this will be
all over with. No details were given to me about anything, I
never been in the situation before. I never understood anything
about what was going on about this here plea, so I didn't
understand how the federal system works.
I didn't understand my plea's, I didn't understand none of this
stuff; about what they call conspiracies, and all that kind of
stuff. Let alone Rico, these are all new words; that's only
Television terms to me.
Interviewer: Right! Now in that meeting it was brought to my
attention that the prosecution was wanting to drop three
charges. Ahhh! Just to get the plea?
Chief Maku: Right! That's right they were going to drop the
charges, so they came to the court with the intent to drop the
charges. Mr. Lawson didn't want that to happen, because Mr.
Lawson of course was working with the System also and trying to
prevent the indigenous status. And they want to take those
people land, and locked this court and toss me away and also
block the doctrine I propagate forever. So they blocked Mr.
Moultrie from and Mr. wood who was there, from dropping. To put
into the court, put before the court that they must respond to
And they, they would just actually ignore, out right just
actually ignoring Motions; like they never existed. And some
motions they would transferred the motion, from one name and put
the U.S. Government; on it. So they can hide the Motion, that
was pointing out that Mr. Moultrie, them had to present if they
had any more intentions of sabotaging; or what they call
ambushing, they going to have any charges or any more things.
And they hid that there and to this day they wouldn't address
it, and until the other day; mentioned in court it was brought
up again by Ah! Mr. Patrick, Adrian, the new Attorney on the
case and still; they're avoiding it. They're avoiding, avoid
Jurisdiction; they avoid the most important issues, while
they're pursuing their own endeavors, they're own quest; I
should say to over throw a Tribe.
Georgia is one of the few states that want recognize Native
Americans, or American Indians every other state in the doggone
country is recognizing it. Georgia is fighting with everything
they can to keep this as a Confederate state.
Interviewer: Hmmm!!! Because I notice that you been incarcerated
for over two years now ....Maku: That's Right. Interviewer: And
the trial is not, just now coming up to this January 5th ah!
Hearing or the January 5th trial date. Now up until that time
period, even going into New York, you were sent to New York for
a competency evaluation?
Chief Maku: Yes
Interviewer: Ahhh!!! But even in reading the rules that they use
in regards to that, it was a rule that the prosecution usually
Chief Maku: Yes!
Interviewer: And Basically when you went to New York what kind
of treatment were you meet with there?
Chief Maku: Whoa!!! I was put in what was called 9 south first,
which I thought was evaluation. Now I came in the day of the
black out, so the whole prison was shut down. Right!
Interviewer: Right. I came in with a bunch of inmates, they had
us in a dark room; where nobody could see each other so anything
could happen to anybody. Cause the whole New York City was out,
then they kept us there overnight, they gave us a Sandwich. They
couldn't even let us fill out the paper work that night, because
there was no light; eventually some generators came on. I don't
know what point it was, and then they start bringing us come out
one by one; the Doctors was asking us questions about our
Alright that's when they, they started noticing my breathing
conditions, and added back on my childhood Asthma, was added
back on. A condition brought out, because the conditions I was
in, no air, locked down there in New York there in a tomb, with
no lights and no circulation, we couldn't breathe so that made
me have that breathing problem again. Now I'm back on with
Asthma Medicine. Right! I was put in a cell in 9 south where a
Latino guy who had already been found guilty. Right! I can't say
he was a cruel person, no problem; we talked and joked. But the
place was filthy, rats were there, holes in the wall.
I spoke to a man, I can't think of his name, he was suppose to
be the counselor there; a little short Puerto Rican man, he
laughed. He thinks it's funny the conditions we say we were in,
there rats in there. "Well, yeah, everybody know there's rats in
New York". There water bugs and things, It's filthy, there's
mildew on the wall and that's dangerous. "Well everybody knows
that." "I say well ok." So that went for a while, they kept me
down there, i can't remember exactly.
Like I said they knock out your days and night, by putting you
in a corner in places where you can't see. And then from there
out of the clear blue sky, they put a Arab in my cell, from
Morocco. Some Arab guy, they know in my records it says that me
and Arabs don't get alone. You follow? So they endangered my
life by putting a Moroccan in my cell, then within two days;
they saw that no violence was going to happen there. They
transferred me up to ten south where they have all the
Terrorists at, Right? They're tape player said don't say
nothing, don't question us, don't look at us, don't say nothing
to us; and they throw you in a cell. And that's it, some
Caucasian guy comes back there and says you don't talk to no
other officers, you only talk to me. If you want anything you
say it to me, they just lock in a room and there's nothing in
the room, you can't see outside; and it's a concrete bed, and a
ah concrete desk. Eventually when all of the other black
officers would leave, then he come back in, he would hand cuff
you down; put a black bag on your head, at night time. and then
when the shifts, with so much going on round there he would come
and take it off you, but you better not say nothing to nobody
about this here. Or so and so and so, it went on like that, i
don't know how many days I was up there. They stop my mail, stop
my visitation, stop my telephone conversation. And then want to
rush me back down, by taking me through Oklahoma; and then
bounce me back down to Georgia, back to Jones County, and then
rush me into court.
Interviewer: Hmmm!!! And that's how you?
Chief Maku: I never been prepared, that's how I been living, I
been living under those Torturous conditions.
Interviewer: Now this isn't the first, speaking of F.C.C. New
York, that's not the first facility where you where you were
kept in um, conditions where you were separated and alone?
Cief Maku: Naw! I was locked down, I was locked down, in Jones
Bell County, in a Medical Cell, that was set up for people with
Tuberculosis, and the whole temperature was like ah 100 and
something degrees all the time, couldn't breathe. Two doors
locked in, by myself, no windows, no nothing. The only time I
would see somebody is every now and then, a person; I woke up
would come by, a nurse or somebody. A couple of officers there
and they would stop and they would come in and say this room is
too hot, and they would open the door. And say this room is to
hot and a couple of officers would crack the second door, so I
can breathe and the other officers would come and close the
door. And I was allowed to get out, cause I guess I must have
pass out, cause they came through. And I found myself, they took
me to a day room, which is not very big; about 10x10. And in
that day room there is about 5 other guys, but I know these guys
are very sickly looking, only to find out after talking to them
they were Aids and Tuberculosis patients. Locked in the same
room, we're using the same; one telephone on the wall.
Chief Maku: And I know if I use that telephone I'm taking a
chance, or not get it, so I had to go to the phone, that's why I
made some contact with outside to let them know what's going on,
what's happening to me in Jones bell, West Clayton County. Then
of course I was bounced over to Putnam County from there. Every
time I raised any questions, I would be bounced to a lower and
lower and lower conditions; and more Substance and more torture.
Abuse, pushing, shoving, cursing at you, calling you names. Who
do you think you are, you ain't nothing, you have a whole bunch
of vulgarities. And all kind of different things, you ain't
nobody, you're just ah another Nigger to us. You know stuff like
Interviewer: Hmmm Huh! now throughout this incarceration, um;
you been held at about, from what you stated today about five or
Chief maku: About five or six yeah about, yeah. They still
bouncing me, they getting ready to bounce me to another one now,
to Brunswick. Interviewer: Hmm!!! Maku Continues: In the judges
environment, where he went to school; and he practiced for
twenty years. So he can pull a jury of his peers, trying to;
cause they know by now that we have all of the facts. And they
have no evidence. Interviewer: Hmmm!!! Maku Continues: and they
know we're about ready to beat this case, So now they're trying
to put a curve ball in this situation. And Hoodwinked the
Public, so the public want know what's really going on. That's
why they're trying to close the court, cause they thought they
had me dead to right. If all that stuff they put in back in May
was right, all that filth, and all that stuff was true, all the
witnesses, and all that there; they would want it on Television.
Don't tell me that, this would be one of the greatest shows they
have in the public.
Chief Maku: And now with the Michael Jackson case going on to,
and the host of things that just came back on with the Catholic
Ministers too, this would be a beautiful one. Why would they
want to hide this one? And don't tell me they're trying to
protect no children, cause there's no children in the case.
Everybody in the this case is over 18 years old.
Chief Maku: You Follow? And the other two they say were under
18, were excused, and they were already verified as not having
been molested. When those other 5 kids were released, the
doctors said they haven't been molested, so that's what he's
calling two kids under age. The other time he lies and speak
about, and most the kids getting up and lying, to the Judge that
girl was 13 when we got her birth certificate and verified she
was 14. It's out right lies, it's conspiracy, to try to destroy
our tribe; take our land and block our Jurisdiction, our
Interviewer; Right!!! Throughout all that, throughout all the
torture that you been put through,
Chief Maku: Um huh.
Interviewer: And things of that nature, now your leading up to
the court case and it just seems from what i' m reading and the
public is at, now they're trying to violate your constitutional
rights, by allotting you a fair trial?
Chief Maku: That's right.
Interviewer: Um, and that's what this Judge C. Ashley Royal,
wanting to close the court room?
Chief maku: That's right.
Interviewer: What's that's about?
Chief Maku: Blocked away my 1st Amendment right, my 6th
Amendment right, my 5th Amendment right, and I think my 14th
amendment right. He just trying to closed the court, cause he
don't want the public to hear this trial. He's lying, and saying
he's doing it to protect the children, but there's no children
in the case; so that, that can't be the real reason. So now, you
know what I mean; what is the real reason? To keep the public
from hearing the truth. When we start presenting to the video
tapes we got, the picture we got of these kids and they're real
nature. The facts, the letters we got, the actual witnesses we
got, the affidavit. Those who was raised with them, who hung out
with them, not the 4 people they're talking about, or the 5
they're talking about. But another 50 another people who was
Their own mother's and father's, their own Brothers and Sister's
who were willing to testify that these kids is a plot for money.
People was a part of the of the meeting when they had when they
had the plot planned, went to Florida with them. How Jake and
them transported minors across the state line, from Georgia,
bringing them down to Florida; just to set up the plot. They
trying to hide all these facts and the judge will help them,
because it's an embarrassment to the state of Georgia and went
through all of this just to find out all of this was a lie.
It was all a big plot and they got trick by a bunch of kids.
That they're calling kids of course most are in their thirties
now, but their call kids; it's embarrassment. So they got to let
me fall and, you know what I'm saying?
Chief Maku: To Save Their butts, and we're not having it, that's
why were public and that's why its on the internet, and it's
called ah WWW.U.N.N.M. com and get the facts, go to Petition.
COM and go there and you'll see the facts it's up there.
Interviewer: Right!!! Now you speak of um, the different um; the
different things that have taken place throughout this whole
entire time period. What do you think has lead it to this point,
and do you think the new Rico charges are an act to basically
um, or punish you. Maku: Yeah, Exactly!!! Interviewer: for
wanting to refer to your 5th amendment right?
Chief Maku: The RICO charges, cause they released I did not
owned the property in Putnam County, and that the Judge Hugh
Winfield, a judge Called Hugh Winfield, had released the
property back to original owners. Which is the Evanston and the
Richardson, right? And now they got to come up with some Rico
charges; and all of that to figure out a way to control the
money and keep the land. And it's a way of chastising me, if I
have ah audacity to fight them back.
Interviewer: Right!!! Now you in fact, you in fact retired in
1988, is that correct?
Chief Maku: That's Correct.
Chief Maku: And Abigail Washington father, Nathaniel Washington
became the President or leader of that organization from then on
the Vice President became Vincent Powell, l or their Secretary
became somebody name. Note: The Name of the Secretary, wasn't
Interviewer: Now you been ah, you speaking, these are legal
organizations that your taking about?
Chief Maku: I was a Nubian Islamic Hebrew, in the Ansaar
community Incorporated way back in Brooklyn, yes. I retired in
1988 and went about my Business.
Chief Maku: And i form The Egiptian Church Of Karast, I went
back into the Masonic Lodge, and held the Doctrine From There.
Attorney Jonathan Marks and Judge C, Ashley
Royal sabotaging Malachi Z York's changes of judgment of
acquittal or new trial before it reason the court of appeal
judges this is illegal
Malachi York filed Pro-Se motion to reinstate the
trial motions that Jonathan Marks Sabotaged on August 13, 2004
when he withdraw Attorney Adrian Patrick's trial error motions
with no reason given to the court
Judge C Ashley Royal denying Malachi Z York Pro-Se
motion asking to reinstate Attorney Adrian Patrick's trial error
motion 1 New trial motion and Judgment for acquittal